Circular Logic
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SetWC03
Collector #dz33
Released2003-08-06
Rarityuncommon
ArtistAnthony S. Waters
LanguageEN
Layoutnormal
AttributesReprint
ScryfallOpen ↗

Circular Logic

UncommonColour IDMV 3
Instant
Counter target spell unless its controller pays for each card in your graveyard.
Madness (If you discard this card, discard it into exile. When you do, cast it for its madness cost or put it into your graveyard.)
Keywords
Madness
Card capabilities
Derived deterministically from card types, Oracle text and keywords. Not a strategic evaluation.
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Rulings (10)
wotc8 Dec 2022
Madness works independently of why you're discarding the card. You could discard it to pay a cost, because a spell or ability tells you to, or because you have too many cards in your hand during your cleanup step. You can't discard a card with madness just because you want to, though.
wotc8 Dec 2022
Count the number of cards in your graveyard as Circular Logic resolves to determine how much the controller of the target spell has to pay. Circular Logic is still on the stack at that time. It doesn't count itself.
wotc8 Dec 2022
If you discard a card with madness to pay the cost of a spell or activated ability, that card's madness triggered ability (and the spell that card becomes, if you choose to cast it) will resolve before the spell or ability the discard paid for.
wotc8 Dec 2022
Casting a spell with madness ignores the timing rules based on the card's card type. For example, you can cast a sorcery with madness if you discard it during an opponent's turn.
wotc8 Dec 2022
If you discard a card with madness while a spell or ability is resolving, it moves immediately to exile. Continue resolving that spell or ability, noting that the card you discarded is not in your graveyard at this time. Its madness triggered ability will be placed onto the stack once that spell or ability has completely resolved.
wotc8 Dec 2022
To determine the total cost of a spell, start with the mana cost or alternative cost (such as a madness cost) you're paying, add any cost increases, then apply any cost reductions. The mana value of the spell is determined by only its mana cost, no matter what the total cost to cast that spell was.